I’ll be alive oh hey there we’re live hey everybody welcome to PC world xbox one x pc build we are doing a live build with the entire full nerd crew so I’ve got Gordon right here and for the first time or ability have Brad the boss and of course we have our amazing video guys Adam and Dan on hand should use the microphone here we go yeah and if you have questions comments be sure to chat in I will be asked no matter I’m sure people want to say things this microphone work at this time it’s working yes no buzzing no buzzing all right so first of all we’re gonna introduce you to the alcohol we have with us today yes I have a hard cider which I probably won’t be drinking much of though I’m sure everyone’s gonna egg me on I think Gordon has the most hipster of hipster beer I have what is this this is a Half Moon Bay Brewing pumpkin harvest ale yeah for the for the season season I prefer in 40s personally but Budweiser and a few 40 put in the freezer you get it just like almost a turn nice TV beers that sounds like that sounds like Courtney and P for everybody wondering cuz every complaining little water you drink beer when you build a computer we’re at work we’re getting paid to drink beer we’re gonna go the computer at work okay so if you haven’t you into in our live builds before this is for us it’s just really casual we get together we have boos and we put together system this time the matically it’s going to be xbox one x pc so let’s get started yeah let’s do it I have a feeling we may have people in Smash that are joining us who are more console fans than PC enthusiasts so I’m expecting to field some questions today about why do we even try what’s the point can’t see the next box lot X for the price well be relevant an article that I did that priced out different bills that is true it’s a great article currently you cannot build a PC that is relatively similar in specs for $500 that doesn’t mean it can’t change in the future but for the moment the answer is no you cannot why are we doing it because we’re like pcs and why don’t you tell the the audience this this case that you picked up and why so if you look at the build it’s actually not gonna be exactly this once when I bought this one it was on sale oh and most of the the build lists are pretty much comprised of parts composed parts that were picked for their sale price this one I got I think about $35 it’s a micro ATX case it’s small it’s relatively compact and it’s a double thing it does Thermaltake I think it’s the age 15 it has a five and a quarter inch base lot on the front which is where we’re gonna put the blu-ray drive nice if you’re going full PC Gamer you don’t need an optical drive so you could get a different case I actually wanted to get the other if you all can see it behind me is this Corsair that’s white it’s a pretty one access it’s really pretty yeah have an optical major so it’s 35 bucks no no sale was like 40 45 yeah bread picked that up though that’s a pretty it’s a pretty case for sure also I’ll say that yeah we have a plenty of people in here that are console fans that are either play both or they you know maybe left PC by the wayside and you know just seeing what it’s like to get back into it harder for y’all to see the build so I’m going to just start with the motherboard outside sweet fun let me get it yeah I realized I need to pop off my beer I’ll let you guys do that because I should introduce it from the parts first so the bill is based

around a rise in 3 1200 CPU so we’re going Rison and the original article I did I picked an AMD FX 8350 but now that rise ins out and there’s a budget version of Rison I didn’t really see a point in building with the holder chip although for our benchmarks I have put together an FX 8300 M so I will grab a benchmarks from that just so people who want to see the difference in performance can see and that is a quad core with SMT versus an 8 core FX bar right but since we’re building a PC the whole 8 core thing doesn’t really mean the same thing on PCs so I’m going with the actual performance and not necessarily what it sounds like on paper now how are you gonna judge the victory here because is it is this so I you got a look at the purpose of the machine whenever I’m configure anything or giving people advice what are you gonna use the thing for this is like a 75% gaming box then for 100% gaming box I I don’t believe there is such a thing as hundred-percent personal I think it’s gonna depend on who’s building it I mean if we’re talking about console gamers or former console gamers who are thinking well I either want to go with Xbox one X or I could build a PC then for them most likely it’s gonna be anywhere from 90 to 100% gaming if you’re talking about someone who is a PC gamer who maybe wants to upgrade a really old rig then it’s gonna be more mixed use all right you’ll see maybe more of that 60s I’m slowing you down sorry to ask this questions you want me to do something we okay last time from the computer but they’re asking if we’re gonna give the PC away after I I would love to but we haven’t yet worked out with our legal team while we’re doing the giveaway stuff so unfortunately answer for now is no if you actually go to a dictionary I’m not making this up and you look up no we put that into the system so from the motherboard I ended up picking an a320 board which if you follow rise of all the stuff with Rison and all that you know that it’s not overclockable or i mean that you can’t overclock the CPU and I did that primarily for price there there were people who tweeted at me and said hey why don’t you like put the extra fifteen or twenty dollars towards be 350 boards so you can overclock and get more performance out of it and my answer to that is that is an excellent point well made however where I was going for cost with this build so I was basically going as low as I could go without actually sacrificing too much when it Lelaina knows you know actually overclock either that’s true but there are definitely people who like to buy overclockable parts just so they know that they have the option so cool LSD I see you in the box sweet so the the chat saying we should have got a bunch of colt 45 for everyone to drink here’s a good question from Antonio Viper anyone know if the if the X will have liquid cooling does anyone know not liquid cooling as you know where you assume there’s a pump which is what we sort of see what CLC’s but you know phase change kind of like where changes from a vapor or whatever but I wouldn’t call it liquid cooling but it’ll probably using and and we got it we got a question straight for Brad from todd todd did you did you switch your old gaming pc for rise in there did you stay with the old one with your old Intel nice for your personal gaming machine on streaming and making videos in the future so figured a few quarters for it the commander do you think but for test bed still is it still has elite a core yeah 60 X 8 core but we’re gonna be switching that out sometime soon in that’s nice ok there’s a triangle so

right now Elena is looking for the triangle to insert the rise in CPU into the motherboard I don’t know why they never make it more a lot more obvious but there’s so you don’t mess this up this is the most dangerous part of any build you screw up and you bend pin it’s not good I will say as much as people sort of crap on these older style CPUs that still have pins on them I brought that CPUs that I’ve had serious serious pins been in doing the mechanical pencil trick oh the new LGA systems that are used in you know the Red River and you know of course until for a long time it’s really hard to come back from a couple really badly bent pins and those he is so I actually do kind of like the depends on the CPU we got a good question from diamond– he’s asking what what cooling will this PC have what kind of cooling cooler so this is a point that I wanted to bring up while we were talking about just a second ago I definitely had some comments from people who are primarily against console fans that were saying oh you know like Xbox one axis so superior because it has that vapor chamber cooling so that I would say that is not necessarily an equal equivalent to compare the types of cooling we have here and one of the nice things about having a PC is that if you want to you can always upgrade your cooling upgrade you want to spend more money you can definitely get liquid cooling and I will say if there’s one thing Mike yourself knows how to do what to do now is to definitely cool the Xbox revering of death I mean that was like a ninety nine per item I do not know one single person who owned an Xbox that actually used it it was 360 right the ones that are all dying yeah original generation there is nobody there’s not a single xbox 360 there’s a planet that is still running if they asked to use it as far as I know cuz everybody I know that’s ever used one favorite place at least one of them I have personally you want the six three disparate Drive i-i’ve been through something I’ve been through two disc scratch Xbox 360s and five red rings so yeah yeah second gen not the not the the slim not though like the redesigned body but like I can’t remember the different process yeah yeah so man that was good another question from sergeant nor der why didn’t you use a smaller case to get the same form factors the Xbox one X again primarily for cost there are some really cute little mini ITX cases out there that are about the same size as the Xbox well maybe slightly larger but I’ve roughly called Sol sized but those costs like sixty to seventy dollars so again because this build was primarily built around the question of what can you do for as close to the price as possible that’s why I chose to go with the bigger case and while you put the cooler on here’s a good one for Gordon yeah we’re only putting weight well hold up no this is this is somebody in the chat named Adam Murray hold up That’s not me I’m right here so I hope man they’re maybe they’re trolling me anyway Adam Murray not me says that we’re gonna put eight gigs of DDR four in here but the Xbox one X has 12 gigs of DDR 5 yeah yeah please please talk about this if you watch the live build prep video there are a couple of things that even quite say right in it and one is that I said that there are eight gigs of RAM on the Xbox one X which is not true there are 12 gigs of shared ADR GDR sorry guys G taking a hard v ram and it’s so the thing is about the Xbox one X is that it’s it’s a custom system and so the the CPU and the GPU are actually I mean for lack of a better term to put it simply it’s combined it’s a it’s an APU so it’s all one unit it’s very different than what we’re building here and because of that the RAM the memory is shared between the two components so you have 12 gigs overall but I think it’s only up to 9 that a game can use so there’s

still some being reserved for the system the operating system itself to function otherwise everything would just run incredibly slow and I think what I read was that if a game doesn’t use the full nine gigs the rest goes back to the system resources so that things a little faster you have a fairly smooth seamless experience overall if you ate too much into that additional 3 gigabytes you really wouldn’t have enough to run the variant of Windows 10 that’s all the Xbox one X so I mean you could argue that you only get eight versus the ninth maximum for Xbox one X but you know again it’s it’s not pure apples to apples comparison here no all right Gordon you’ve done this more often I have when you a should I position this that’s a different kind of fans just so you want to point us to this we’re using a stock cooler it has the stock thermal interface material or pastes right as people like to call it we’re just gonna pick wall this is the top right no way so we’re gonna be in this case yeah that’s that’s the top because this will be a top so you’re gonna want to be able to read what it doesn’t really matter the logos are it’s just sort of just I would probably place it depending on where you’re gonna plug this yeah keep accident switching them in place sorry stream at a play gotta go vertical oh so it is a rectangle about a square so when W is is saying he heard that it’s nine gigs four games and three gigs reserved for the system I don’t know how true that is but he’s saying that it’s nine gigs for the games and three gigs for the system okay cool sorry I wasn’t paying attention I was drinking this this yummy beers yeah this pumpkin harvests ale for the good well California kid says why not match the specs you clowns are bums oh yeah you know what it’s all about being exactly the about the space and matching it that makes sense because that’s the only thing that matters like higher frame rates would be better on a certain platform right if that’s which is which is true just kidding no oh no I was just listening to bread burn you know I’m gonna I’m gonna do the final torque on this are you okay no go ahead and plug it in plug advance rookie move always plug in your CPU fan it’s a rookie move everybody makes as they forget to plug that in or you plug it into the wrong one you plug into the wrong one the motherboard goals sometimes halt and say there’s no fan plugged in so just as years we’re getting to take protective oh yeah that’s so this is there’s it’s nice there’s no torque wrench this is not the red ripper there we go this is a small board so another reason why I went with a rising bill for our live builds and our total primary benchmarking is because with the with Rison motherboards are newer and therefore you have built in MDOT to support so again nice thing about PC if you wanted to upgrade down the road to booting off with SSD you can and it’s gonna be nice and fast you can get a nice nbme drive off so I’m actually gonna reverse this out because this board is so damn tiny little AMD logo overhangs the dim slot one of the dim sum oh you’re right are you running one or two Tunes – okay so we’re gonna we are gonna reverse this some people get freaked out by like oh my god the thermal paint whatever it’s fine do you have a minute I do have a mini ITX board suppose no way to dims yeah this is no no this is this is my crazy oh well what the hell is this thing I think this might be a mini ice yet this is not a DC X is it no I’ve been getting a little mixed up with all my parts because I’m building the two simultaneously so I’m pretty sure I know my SX 8300 is a micro ATX that has four slots I think this is a mini ITX as always a dream

this do you want to read my face it’s fine we’re not overclocking can you uh reiterate why you bought this Ford Kyle font or wants to know why small yeah yeah yeah to build the smallest box possible because again the the question that I wanted to answer with this build was what can you build for five hundred dollars that in an attempt to replicate the Xbox one X and when I was pricing out the build the cheapest ones were the tiny boards which worked out well in terms of size so people didn’t accuse me of building just this gigantic ugly PC but it wasn’t my specifically set out to find the smallest board possible so in Leslie lies saying that the Xbox one X uses a customized Polaris based 580 plus with 40 compute units instead of the desktop base 580 with 36 compute units breadward does that matter Brad tell us if that matters it’s bigger than the motherboard oh I I think so but I do have a backup case on hand when you’re when you’re actually pricing this out and when you’re building it and if you actually look at the build list I have the 580 I have in our build list is not nearly so behemoth however us availability and the funds available to this build for low I had to go with what we had on hand which was actually brought had on hand and sent to us Tasha is wondering was there no room in the budget for a small SSD I think this came out to 693 ish oh that would push with us 693 with OS yes and with controller no six $700 with OS for 580 class gaming so that’s 1080p gaming at you know high that’s pretty damn good for PC gaming are you and with the ramen yeah but we want we want a 4k machines sure so I chose eight gigabytes of RAM mostly just to ensure that there would be smooth system performance that’s not actually trying to match anything or show up anything this is ddr4 just for compatibility reasons I picked I think twenty eight hundred megahertz for speed not again for any particular reason but just it happened to be the cheapest one at the time Korean prices rise and likes faster speeds so I thought it was nice that I actually got a little bump in speed over what I was originally looking at because I thought I’d get you know 21 33 or 2,400 in terms of trying to find the cheapest but it wasn’t the cheapest which is kind of weird actually but you know ever case prep the case the power supply we got a good another good question I catch my favorite kind of powers but bug Zulu 36 verses 40 but higher clock I mean annex but you know of course Xbox does I mean it is a custom OS right it’s and their games are closer to the metal supposedly or they actually all just DirectX 12 of these these days I’m no console hand so I have no idea so let’s say actually could be more of a loss of anything right uh Adam Murray but not me I’m Adam Patrick Murray is asking can you confirm the harddrive speed for the X versus what’s in your PC which is what

I actually ended up picking through the build in the part list originally because at the time they just said it was 50% faster and I said I don’t really know what that means y’all I’m just gonna kind of strike a middle balance here and pick what’s actually commonly available to PC DIY builders and just grab a 7200 rpm Drive which turns out that’s what actually it is in the Xbox 1x which i think is a little weird to say that’s a 50% increase of bandwidth this is a family show so I’m not going to use the correct word technically correct word but that is a bunch of baloney ain’t no way if anybody’s ever used up 54 5400 rpm hard drive and then the use of 7200 they don’t go like oh my god my life has changed it’s so much faster yeah you know the most laptops though most laptops I mean of course not today but like they were all very low rpm drives right so Taj points out that Gordon was so careful with the thread Ripper build but now he’s just slapping things in slow nobody has mentioned anything about a slow build yet so Oh slow it down slow this do longer we can hang out here and drink and actually collect money for it is better yeah how’s it how’s your PPR oh wow they’re not mounted I hate that case man you gotta do everything yourself so what Elena is doing is is is putting in the motherboard mounts so there’s wholesome for a rookie that he’s never done this before and actually we do like we want to make sure the the PC crowd is open to everybody you’ve never done it there’s holes in the motherboard you put the mounts in you screw the motherboard down but of course you got to make sure they all match what’s in the motherboard they wouldn’t help the fact she held it the right way yeah well we’re gonna do one two what are these extra one for when the world is at one two three what the heck weird that’s kind of the fun of it though just kind of seeing how each build is kind of also a side note Geoffrey and the chat is saying you know you did an unboxing for a dell all-in-one and the other review hasn’t been posted in a couple months can I say this I don’t throw down to a bus my review unit had issues and it took a long time to work them out and by the time I got the second one I was just slammed with other things it is still at my desk I am still trying to finish it because I it’s a really cool system and I want to finish that review so I haven’t forgotten about it it just gotta got caught up in the review quantities that sometimes problem also another you know pushing DIY laptops they actually had they were trying to standardize components power supplies so you could actually build your own laptops I actually have done a couple of those six to seven years ago you know they were you know laptop five six seven years ago they were big ugly pieces of plastic but you could you know you would buy a white box it would have a motherboard you drop in a CPU RAM storage and you’d be good to go really that really wasn’t that much building they kind of gave up I know from what I understand it’s mostly because you know vendors would sell these white box kits they seuss was one of them somebody would screw up installing the the CPU they returned to the store and then now they’re stuck with a very expensive laptop that they can’t do anything with so it was kind of a he was kind of a problem for the people who were trying to sell the system’s themselves so that that’s over in Sullivan tried to do build your own all-in-one which didn’t go over that well I so yeah it was kind of cool but I mean they were just you know the internal connectors use those really really super fine ribbon cables

and I let me you want them yeah it’s gonna torque these down this is there are definitely even if you build systems many times they’re definitely a few places where you can forget to do something and you do all the rest of the steps and then you go around but putting in the IO shield is definitely one of those things we had somebody mentioned that we’re not wearing our protective wrist straps you know what’s why the electronics and the components are not as sensitive as they might have once been as long as you’re careful and not you know purposely rubbing your hands over carpet to create that electricity usually pretty good yeah also high humidity day but you know if you’re building one or two computers it’s not gonna really matter yeah if you’re working again I think we said this awesome if you’re working in a factory yeah you want to take a st protocols you’re doing here in your garage it’s not a problem and earlier what I was doing I just want to mention we torque down the motherboard mounts that is a very very important stuff to do make sure you get those things in there tight because you’re gonna screw down into the into the case from the motherboard and then when you back it out it’ll back the actual mount out and you’re kind of screwed yeah bad things you have to do crazy things with pliers and rubber bands so that you can grip one thing and not the other I actually like this because they go get their optic way you know CPU coolers yeah you know that stop cooling it’s awesome for that because I gotta say aftermarket air coolers aftermarket seal sees it heads there’s like another 15 steps for those things but we’ve had a couple questions in the chat that I think bread you can help us out with and I personally have no experience with this either but how is the screen capture on AMD cards you know cuz uh the GeForce experience screen capture is actually pretty damn good the shadowplay stuff nice so Brad I have a question for you have used the capturing option for Xbox one at all or I guess okay I guess the rough equivalent would be Windows tens native capturing how does yeah how does that compare to real I’ve um mixer it’s called it used to be called beam and became into what those things creators update it’s really great in figured advanced into streaming because it’s a real nice simple interface that let you get up and going quickly and dancing the console but it doesn’t have a lot of the in-depth detail and options that you would get something like it would be s so it’s good for getting that quickly when you start doing it but not good for advanced users okay those are for auto drivers just how Brad how much overhead does that the the AMD screen capture put on on your GPU detail awesome marker diamond wants to know if you have a ps4 bread nice but so which of us are your console gamer do you have a Wii and you have what so that makes him a console

gamer should be the course I’m glad Gordon got distracted on that one he was gonna go on a console rant good one red Mile the debate because I didn’t consult the manual like I normally do Oh Wow they really do I think they really do to use those damn things those are the ones using the optical drive oh I just I think the bit you have in your screwdriver it’s not the right size that’s why it’s not screwing it easy oh no you something and Elena you what kind of console do you have at home Wow no no I have here comes a reasonable SNES NES classic a Wii PlayStation 4 Xbox 360 elite version Xbox 360 slim version Xbox one original version I have on the way yeah take that Gordon what you have at home there Adam Oh God are we doing this gamers you guys are because clearly console gamers that are watching I’ve a gameboy color Nintendo DS and Nintendo 3ds a PlayStation Vita a X Xbox 360 I recently sold my xbox one ps4 pro a retron 5 are retropie build a Super Nintendo and a Genesis dude oh and my switch – yeah yeah you know I should bring my switch in here and just play some Mario while you guys build this wow that’s cool and and what what kind of coffee you have yes and I brought my yeah he does evidence 64 here oh yeah he’s cool cool wait on the Swiss house in Great Council yeah Gordon what consoles do you have I have none no your kids have yeah only in Jensen’s dreams this Nvidia shield count as a game it’s an awesome Cody box it’s like the Cadillac of Cody boxes oh that’s not a game console that’s like calling Android gaming gaming so the Android gaming is not gaming it cannot be there for a game Council how about you racer yeah yeah which by the way I’ll be too I have one of those yeah I do I see I have steam link you have to a network Fergie I bought them as gifts so no I I don’t have any game consoles at home the behemoth all right let’s see this drumroll will it fit you anyone do that SATA Drive there though cuz it’s gonna block and any blood from the case yet yeah at least port to plug the cable in I guess yeah so guys that console awesome yeah prefer game consoles over question Gordon actually in some ways I would say yes because my switch man I play that all the time here at work on the train at home sitting on my couch plug it into my monitor and my computer you play everywhere so much you play it well you play PC gaming sometimes yeah I’m waiting for a game to and so looks I’m in a minute I’m I’m not a PC getting fat or I’m not that is also true I’m not betting at all so dreaming what is the attraction don’t forget the motherboard headers do you prefer the the steam controller do

use a hex box force whatever the force if the force is gonna speak to me also what do you guys think about VR do you think the Xbox one ex will eventually get a VR headset this is coming from Kyle this year laughter I think it was 2015 where they talked about it and then it was like like not a word hi hi if it’s coming it’s not gonna be for a while I think I think they looked at the numbers on psvr and how that thing is like it’s the equivalent of a Nintendo light gun in the mount of use it gets so I think they said why waste money on this this generation I don’t think it makes sense I had a friend that said look I need to get my son he really wants VR and the cheap route is to get PSP are right we just do a ps4 we do VR and I said any ghost should I get that or vodka will survive and I said I honestly think you’re already PC gamers I really think psvr is just not it’s not up to snuff rather this is still a urine of bleeding edge of technology if you’re gonna sink any money into it you Mazal sink money into something you’re gonna play which is a vibe right maybe but yeah just too underpowered cuz now he’ll be are in my opinion man you get sick of that stuff you not really hope though is that Sony has looked forward and they said yeah we know this is underpowered hardware for VR but next generation we’re gonna come out with our next generation you know super duper PS five it’ll have the power to drive this headset I’m gonna hope they’re not gonna pull a Sony and say oh you need to buy the new VR headset for the PS 9 right I mean that wouldn’t that be the ultimate screwing I’m surprised you need to say Google cardboard so we all know how much you love and during the yard stuff the cheapest I don’t get my kids barn and stuff it’s like so he’s the equivalent of a card trick you’re like what’s hard you pick okay that’s it on my trick you know that there’s a lot of pretty impaired to me anyway so in he’s at did you what console do you run that on you know there’s a lot of there’s not a lot of love for VR in the chat but there is a lot of love for consoles you know a lot of people think they can coexist yeah but I’m just saying yeah I do think the arts very much bleeding edge it’s not for everyone right you’re an early adopter at this point but if you’re gonna do it do it in a system that is not gonna just kind of collect dust right and be worthless I think vibe still has a lot of legs you know you know the 4k obviously is a big deal surprise they’re getting set up solely to run VR headsets if that takes off I mean obviously the PlayStation is because PSP arms already out you know Kyle’s asking a hundred bucks these days and that blows the pants off of psvr yeah and that runs on which game console we could use that with this machine gun probably fine maybe I’m so just to get back to the topic a little bit of Elena what’s going on here tell us tell us what you’re working on because we’re getting put in this mammoth freaking gigantic video card in next where’s the there we are so let’s see how large this is relative to the beste system because of that it’s likely gonna block these connectors right here so we’re doing this first before inserting the video card so those are the pins for the front of the case so that you can use your power switch and the LEDs light up and everything over here and then this is the connection to the storage the SATA connector it’s not a connector never pronounce that right I am that person that only ever learns words they’re reading them and then I butter them and

everyone looks at me like what it’s like data and data Scaasi what is it it is scuzzy snazzy it’s also Jeff I’ve never heard scheduled the worst argument on the Internet I agree with you I say Jeff is a little bit I mean we’ve had a couple questions earlier after this is built what are you gonna do with it and what games are you gonna test so what I’m gonna do with it is benchmark it and I’m gonna do a hand of CPU benchmark suggests so that I can compare it to the FX 8350 M but for games I’m gonna try to do games that also will run on the Xbox one X obviously we can’t benchmark the Xbox upon X but well hat we can at least get the numbers on the PC side and then do the well based on how we’re looking at it this is roughly what the difference is so for that I’m thinking rise of the Tomb Raider 4 to 7 and Gears of War 4 oh nice ok yeah if I can get code for that then I’ll try that throw that one into maybe this asin’s Creed have a built-in benchmark I don’t think it does right so maybe that it depends on what codes I can get my hands on and what like people own in the office and are willing to let me run on the system Corey’s asking is Wi-Fi on board or are you gonna use a USB stick a good question so when you get a dirt cheap motherboard it doesn’t include Wi-Fi yeah so that that is what is it 10 points to Xbox one X Y Phi so if you want Wi-Fi on the system you’re gonna have to get an either an adapter extra adapter or an internal part but word of advice don’t do Wi-Fi gaming that just sucks just run a 300 foot get you know cat 6 cable to just don’t know Wi-Fi is the worst thing like I sort of God if he like went and looked what was wrong with PC gaming Wi-Fi would really be like the number one blame people trying to play games over Wi-Fi so just string it throughout hopefully a little wider Dan no yeah I think there’s this thing right here that won’t let it’s not no it’s not gonna let see oh no oh no do we just grab that for a card reference card can you guess what no it’s got this weird limp to it it has this thing right here I think this is for SSD smashing SSDs you can’t pull it out I don’t think so I think it’s welded in looks like take it out oh but I can’t cuz then I can’t that’s probably rivet in place I might ya know it’s it is it’s actually won’t at all no no well those it journal well I don’t have it here we breathe trembling yes just for people who may be in the chat saying automatic fail when you actually have control over what parts you buy you couldn’t actually account for this picture of purchased parts and that’s in the office which doesn’t always work out as well as you would hope put this in there we can get it to posts you grab I can go around the reference 481 the reference 480 just so we can finish this build but for the actual benchmarks I’m gonna move this into a system or a case that will accommodate this vickima or we’ll get out the welding tools will get out there welt welding tools and you know make a little one of the things I would do is learn how to mod cases do that really slick liquid cooling with all the lights and the different colors of liquid but I haven’t won the lottery yet so that dream is so far from the distance well would you go I mean it depends on the theme I think real quick bugs Ulla says he’s used this case before and it should fit he says unscrew the bay and just put the hard drive on the ground for now getting the way it’s not this it’s the it’s the lip right here that’s they’re gonna not allow the car to seat I don’t think I want to come see it all right this already hits that lip and I haven’t even got a chance to even

begin well I upgraded my card at home and buy a new case for that but this is a good lesson though because you know the one thing is people they love these little small cases in case you never worry about like always anything can get in the way have a these small cases this is a very common problem so instead of it being blocked in the case that’s why your case fit on your desk yes you don’t worry about like is again a fit with this cup on it but you do like any me in the ITEX build do you sometimes you screw yourself and like on everything carefully go check them in do this he’s so cheap look at this I can’t believe this alright and just to reiterate for for the end of this build we’re just gonna make sure it posts we’re not actually gonna install anything or all the testings gonna happen after that and then we’re gonna have a follow-up video after all the testings done to kind of go over how the build went so how much prep in practical impact how much faster is a 580 over 40 that overclocked hard 10% maybe yeah so that’s the difference Robert Dyson says they should make a PCI riser card there you go oh that would be interesting I’ve never seen just a straight riser card but I have definitely all the awesome flexible PCIe tables these days well could you stack the risers for the motherboard the i/o is lined up on the back of the case yeah I guess they really never expected someone to put a card this small the reference that’s nice 10 inches nine inches this one is like probably like 12 or 13 so Saudi I can confirm that it’s not just a an SSD Bay it’s actually the the whole case it’s it’s machined out like that there’s there’s nothing to take out it’s it’s one big piece yeah you would basically have to Dremel out that that drive bay area to be a larger car be able to take off the cage here but that’s it heart of the cards channel weird name says a 480 graphics card is too weak compared to the Xbox 1x let me understand this because I I don’t really follow the whole console worst thing because I’m a PC gamer but Oh when PlayStation 4 was faster than Xbox the frame rates matter so frame rates if I understand it right a lot of people because I’m not that Elena was one of those people that said it didn’t matter that much but console a lot of some consoled Xbox fans said like it doesn’t matter Xbox vs PlayStation fours it’s not about the frame rates it’s not about the resolution is not for the frame rates so now that Xbox one is faster are you being consistent I just want to make sure that people are being consistent there because people need to to say like if they said it didn’t matter when Xbox is slower than PlayStation 4 it shouldn’t matter now right you might get that straight getting that right I like that whole person in front of the liquor store you going yeah just sitting outside the liquor store kind of like and I think

the Xbox one x2 is that even though you spend all extra money on this console as opposed to a baseline PlayStation Xbox you don’t really know for sure what games will actually support it and if they do support it what did it do like there’s no base expectation for them they won’t say hey you get these games of a run at 4k resolution at 30 frames per second and they don’t say hey 1080p games are running at 60 frames per second it’s kind of a crashing you know what I hope they don’t do though is it I hope they don’t feel like hey you bought X game for your Xbox one we know you barely ran 1080p resolution at any kind of reasonable quality I would hate for them to come out and say oh my god remastered it for HD which is they’ve gone in and they said recompile to run at 4k with you know I mean I hope they don’t like sell that you–that should just be a given like if you have an older game you should simply run it at the higher sorry about any interrupt you yeah they actually have a they have a list out online about the games that are getting updates so and it’s included oh really yeah so um we have this 480 here and I say substitute for the brand-new gtx 1070 TI card if it fit if it’s a if it fit in this game and i was playing on pc how do i get the new content to run on that faster card Brad or Elena I’m not answering this very obviously a setup I don’t have to buy a new one or wait for somebody to add it to a list to say remastered for a higher resolution it’s just kind of like so on the PC you can play that with the Xbox and PlayStation either never really seen updates for the existing games but I believe Gordon’s point is that you have to wait for those updates put on the PC you do – I mean or will you just go into the control panel and set it for 4k or I mean sometimes it’s buggy I mean if you have a like a wide aspect ratio you know I mean there’s there’s definitely things that that aren’t always there if you’re trying to play you know boss box games and manic conquer or something man I love that game sidenote Kyle just so you know we’re using a four eighty a reference for eighty it’s just so we can post and then for the testing the five eighty will go back in also just in case nobody knows I’m Adam hi I’m the producer here I’ll answer your questions questions yeah personally here my feeling is this is a cheap bill cheap wiring don’t worry about it just like you would do you expect like a voodoo class level of wiring right here I might like zip-tie this or something just so it’s not points don’t worry it’s already waiver actually zip-tie it because I have to move this between cases anyway don’t worry it’s already way prettier than Gordon’s red river built so let’s break that out it’s all war another nice that I’ve got that I need to own core I’ve got a drop in yeah yeah where’s that but yeah too many other things they could basically hit let’s say 1430 right 60 frames per second on a TV or on a monitor I would say I’d probably go for 1080 60 is a PC gamer but at the same time TVs are just so such bad gaming interfaces I don’t know if it really matters I think you could probably play for 4k 30 is it 30 therefore 8:30 you probably would not be able to be able to tell you know they’ve probably compensated for just how crappy televisions are isn’t for latency and I think so what’s your playing already playing in now front USB you know even on so I’ve a 4k monitor at home you know and I’m running a 1070 I still try to get as much resolution as I can I’m okay

if you know I’ll hit like 40 frames a second you know it doesn’t bug me I don’t need the highest frame rate are you I’ll still try to know huh I’ll still try to to get a good resolution out of it above frame rate really yeah I mean it depends the game if I’m playing a competitive shooter you know then I would want higher frame rate but I mean if I’m playing a really pretty game like I’ve been playing hell-blade lately and the ha man that thing is just beautiful and it runs 4k on my but I mean 60 frames it’s around 30 or 40 you know for that game because what are they doing this though is it today bleep party Xbox yeah but you see you would then have any you’d have to have an HDMI a current like a brand new HDMI 2.0 smaller yeah but he had an older one that was DisplayPort because freesync precinct one was all despite part right just like g-sync and then they did he come out with the HDMI right but I’m just thinking that the most of the monitors themselves though it was yeah it wasn’t until they rolled it into HDMI which came out early this year right so like you have a lot of the older generation precinct panels you’re not going to work over over DisplayPort no because you’re not gonna build it so the the chat it seems to be about a maybe 6040 split on people want higher frame rates would choose the 1080 60 yeah so yeah I’m actually yeah thanks I almost either the TV handled the upsampling then right I mean that’s just yeah well in depend on yes I got a Lena so Gordon hates modular PS use he’s modular power supplies and so he’s plugged in every single favor this case is if you had the campbells come out like they used to without the modular smashed up against the page will be up top easily talk to her damn small also there’s a there’s some people in chat saying that there’s some people in chat saying that you know us PC gamers just you know we’re just showing that we don’t know anything about console gaming zone I don’t know anything about it I don’t I don’t I want to understand I’m I’m in the interest of interstellar diplomacy I want to know what the appeal is I mean yes but you sound like someone from 1950s Britain visiting the Amazon for the first time or Star Trek it can beam down to that planet we’re all there all dressed up we go but you like your ancient Rome can you take take the cage out I mean also can you take the cage out I don’t think we need to we’ll just write it past it okay Oh Brad earlier somebody asked you to talk about Volta and any new tip for

pcs if you need something now just get it now so well speaking and now you’re 1070 TI review went up today really really good yeah well we’re gonna talk more about that on the the full nerd tomorrow yeah be sure to turn into that terry is asking are you guys factoring in labor costs into your bills so it’s another way that the xbox is just superior I mean really the chat really are they really saying the Xbox is superior we’ve we’ve got some console lovers in here but yeah everyone’s saying that hey you know if you want it if you want to convenient if you want it cheap and if you want to have a you know it’s not it’s not worry about stuff and then Xbox one X is a way to go I mean there is no such thing I believe as a 100% gamer like given my kids to play PC games they do their homework in Google Docs on their PC so light now I’ve never sat down an Xbox to fire Google Docs or Excel in Photoshop so yeah although I do have to tell you antidote so what once upon a time when I used to work for official Xbox Magazine we no joke we would get letters from people telling us that they would actually use Internet Explorer I think it’s an explorer on their Xbox 360 to watch porn why would they tell you that I don’t know I’m actually not entirely sure but I am not kidding when I’m not making this up actually it’s funny I’d like to go to my the statistics on my personal website and there’s there’s always there’s always like a couple hits a month from either a PlayStation web browser or even a we’re at web browser I’ve got a couple times and I’m like who the hell is browsing the web let alone my personal site on the console it’s crazy to me but I just I just I mean maybe we can just agree I I believe there is truly a social aspect with with game consoles you’re gonna stare around your buddies you know your gal buddies drinkin beer playing a football playing bat and whatever that’s that’s a great experience that is a real strength of console games fighting games are a strength to console games but I mean I think even I want to ask the chat because it would there’s clearly more console fans there and you clear a lot of you you folks are the console people but can we can’t we agree PC gaming is superior and graphics quality and generally the you know the multiplayer aspect of hey I can play battlefield 4 on a 64 player server you know well yeah I think we can go this way core to the middle but that really weird because it puts I don’t think I put these on backwards oh no that’s not correctly all right let me let me figure this out give me a second sorry Dan don’t you don’t have to move just yet I see this is just yeah you put it in there we’re gonna see if it works also for the the people that are asking we’re gonna do the full nerd tomorrow at 10:30 a.m. Pacific time we’re gonna talk about all the fun hot topics coffee like 1070 I you know see how so 10:30 10:30 a.m. Pacific time tomorrow if you want to know for the full nerd also we had the random person asking about the PC world show I’ll say that yeah you know timing and scheduling just didn’t end up working out though we continued it but we have some ideas to bring it back but for now the flight of the full nerd is a PC world’s flagship podcast talking about PC hardware so tune in but yes everyone in the chat Gordon can agree that the PC is super superior but you but you have to pay the price yes but at

the same time that price includes the ability to run office Google Docs a browser all kinds of other things so what is the value of you being able to buy to be able to actually do work on yes you could still buy a console for the even the Xbox one X at $500 and then buy a laptop which these days aren’t that expensive relatively speaking for another say like $600 and you have your gaming experience you have your experience and you don’t have to do a lot of work I’m just saying there is a use case for that yeah the use case is and on TV and on TV there’s a lot of people who like to game on with the full HD screen your taxes let’s let’s talk about this now so you’re talking about a five six hundred dollar laptop for how much for the game console which one 500 oh no Xbox one X is that anyone that’s the new one now how what sighs let me understand what size television does what size television is is that Xbox one come with way comes with that comes with it what what television comes with Xbox one what what PC comes with a monitoring Gordon I have a floor I have not use $500 it does not come with the television right so you have to buy television for don’t have to hey you play it on what Dan zoom in on the the PBR for a second to see how far is in its only here’s my point now you’re gonna understand this low Xbox one X $500 say you have a television which you have to buy say $600 for television right not all that is just for the Xbox to say half so $300 so your $500 is now $800 now we’re gonna add the cost of a laptop for $500 where does that we can even go $350 sir that’s a horrible experience well that’s having a cost of but anyway no matter what you can all agree all right we’re about a thousand to twelve hundred dollars right I got that right no I’m not good at math so I can’t agree that Isaac told how much was that Dell laptop he sent me this morning that link 750 after rebate what was inside of that Dell laptop I think it was that’s nothing max q10 60 so a 1060 class graphics card but that’s max q10 60 10 to 10 50 and that laptop cost and not to mention it it comes pre-installed with a bunch of bloatware well how much was that 1060 laptop I could play games at 750 dollars I mean we’re at $750 was it now I’m just a caveman and I don’t know man that’s horrible but that’s horrible $1100 is more than $700 hey sure I’m pretty sure also but the $1100 is far superior to the to the 750 wait 10 10 60 max Q versus of 580 Plus this what they call it I don’t read Brad helped us but I have safety for thread I say $400 what can i buy $400 it also is that screen 1080p I’m sure it is so you can’t even play 4k on it anyway so you’re talking about a 4k TV I’m just saying you can get a full-on gaming laptop with an extremely decent game gaming experience 1060 max Q for 750 dollars and that’s with the screen with speakers with the keyboard you gotta buy a mouse but and that’s with a machine that does emphasis and a head and headset versus the TV you just bought

yeah sighs the screen the resolution C so HD argument doesn’t or Sunday HDR so wait suddenly when the PC is winning the cost matter it does not matter them I always matters the cost o is the cheaper one is better right cheaper is cheaper the the PC is never the PC is never cheaper I just showed you 1060 max Q laptop office capability Photoshop all that in a laptop for seven hundred ninety dollars yes but it’s not equivalent we’re talking about a 4k console on a 4k TV oh my god what you’re saying but let me ask you this so if I spent the extra say three hundred dollars to get up to a thousand or the extra five hundred dollars you get to twelve hundred dollars yeah I’m now up to a full ten sixty part easily right ten sixty maybe even a ten seventy seven seventy maps you really what you gonna take a ten seventy experience over versus a an Xbox one X come on that’s just not even the chat saying you’re reaching Jordan that is not reaching I mean I’m just using we’ll use your all talking about cost no they don’t let me go on the store anymore he said I was annoying customers but everyone is loving the the the old ranting Gordon the old drunk ranting is the person sitting there in front of the liquor store as you go in crazy but no seriously there is PC gaming is not as expensive as you think it is especially when you factor in the ability to do real world there’s a there’s a tangible cost of that that a lot of console gamers don’t give to the PC that’s the thing hey it let’s let’s talk about a very generic PC gamer or console gamer Louise who we know right he doesn’t want his gaming machine to do all the other stuff if you asked him like hey would you rather buy this gaming machine or this PC that’ll do all this other stuff he’s gonna be like I have a PC at work if I want to do that stuff I don’t have when I go home I just want to play games so when you’re talking about just for games there’s plenty of people who want just a gaming machine if you had to choose one device one device to take the college with you you take your Xbox and 1 X or gaming laptop actually there’s plenty of people who take their Xbox one I lived in dorms people those people gathering flunk out in the first year because they ever go like where’s your paper does that be drinking there yeah I I use computer labs all the time I didn’t have a laptop but I had a ps2 and Lena I’m just saying ecology says they’re not the same college kids that they have to buy that that time they have a Chromebook always you put me there we go Chrome but ya know what I gotta go I got to say what why’d optical drive because the next box 1x has Jeff but as a bluff a blu-ray drive 4k blu-ray this is a standard blu-ray drive this is not a 4k blue h dr because that has HDR support because if I chose that it would inflate the cost of this build by almost double right it’s pretty the the state of 4k blu-ray support on the PC side of things is not so great true also sorry Gordon you’re not getting a lot of backup in the chat just to TV background that’s old guy in from the liquor stores always looking for backup if you just want you to say just nod your head races am i right am i right yes I got going here and get my Cheetos so anyway yeah I will say that I also so

I’m gonna loop back around to it because I promised I would this was a while ago and I am having a hard time finding it Cyrus was asking about HDR let me try to follow he says can we discuss HDR and its viability as a selling point so do people even care about HDR Gordon Brad for PC game Fred for either for either I think it’s a HDR does look spectacular I gotta say I’ve seen HDR panels that you know have not been released in a year and a half and they it look spectacular an HDR of televisions look it’s a really really nice upgrade I mean 4k was like yeah you know the curved screen gimmick but 3d can emit greens really a really good HTR television really just like rock your world so HDR is big set unless is a big big 4k panel power bread have have you seen any HDR monitors since less CES when we suck out that demo you know one of the things I will add about the HDR I’ll switch over for a little break guys I’m probably about oh I only got a little bit of beer left HDR there is a little bit of I’ve set up a little bit of like like oh man I gotta turn some some junk on my TV like there’s a little bit of a curve to set up HDR and make sure it’s running properly so you know like I don’t think it’s fully just hey just plug it in and it works great but yeah it’s it’s definitely a big deal I definitely appreciate it well not not even that though I mean there’s some there’s been times where we’ve tried to do some video here with HDR related stuff but I can’t mention that where the when we plugged into the TV we had to be like Oh where’s the setting on the TV to make sure HDR is working right there’s yeah there’s definitely we’ve run into some problems but yeah no I it’s it’s great I I want man I can’t wait for it to come to monitors in a way that is mainstream because yeah I will totally get that HDMI as well or 2.0 whatever 2.18 I can’t keep track but you should okay as long it’s a little ADIS standard all right so yeah really well-built yeah holy man we’re just sitting here ranting with Gordon and we missed the build somebody did mention that Alana’s just sitting there doing all the work while Gordon’s again just ranting yes you don’t know but that that person is actually paid in front of that liquor store all right I’m saved in my cider for celebratory drinking yeah celebratory well let’s not celebrate too quick oh we got a post right no this is a free sync panel we want DisplayPort yeah it doesn’t really matter just for posting one thing I will say is that definitely if you are building something like this and you are a PC gamer and that’s all you are at heart you don’t need a blu-ray drive so you can shave that off the cost of the bill yeah wires CPU we gotta really talk about it even though rise it only has four quarters as opposed to Xbox 1x have an 8 there cutting edge they’re very very good performing cores where is that old workhorse now game set used like open

world games the CPU power and that’s the reason why yeah but it’s 8 core it’s eight chords minor chords 12 gigs versus to me that was the most surprising thing about the specs when they announced the Xbox one X that they hadn’t done any upgrades to the CPU I was just like all right here we go here’s the moment of truth camera ok did you get the leads right oh god the pressure the pressure the pressure oh and spinning fan spinning do we see lights on the motherboard in the cache ok monitor is on I’m gonna display more we are maybe my moment of triumph possibly evacuate in a moment of triumph I think the Old West see their consoles oh here HD mine I don’t even know this switch there’s a joystick oh you’re right I shan’t hiding in it I tell you what I hate this mother was so joysticks are way better than pushing buttons see world staffers come on over I had to switch to the input ah it was up what it’s about show no no that’s it’s on chip our Adam did something oh there we go I’m hitting the input button I’m hitting the input button well the fans are still spinning I suspect we’re already in the BIOS already why is that input button not working would you like me to do this out oh there we go TV in order to be working oh nice sweet so only oh man what oh yeah look at that hour and a half yeah yeah that was great hmm that was nice do you like the cider it’s not bad it’s not too sweet which are you gonna trade you are you gonna yeah are there anywhere exceptions or before we a piece out it’s fun being over with that’s great I loved all look very common yeah oh man all right just catching up on chat there’s somebody saying Gordon’s drunk oh there’s somebody saying California kid says this is a reverse Xbox promotion we’re just we’re just proving to people that they should buy an xbox if you are not all about the power of the PC if you’re not about the multitasking that you were talking about and you are solely looking for a gaming machine that’s going to give you the most bang for your buck in terms of power that doesn’t require you to lift a single finger or have to worry about anything Xbox while the X looks pretty good for what you’re getting from it cuz you get that blu-ray drive you get the game performance and you don’t have to worry about Windows 10 updates and making sure your drivers are compatible or up-to-date or for the newest game that kind of stuff Brad how old’s your kid then you will understand this as well go to your daughter’s school den you’re good and do a survey of the kids and what is the hot gaming scene and it will be 99 out of 100 PC gaming so desktop PC gaming oh hell no let me tell you jennice which school it’s all about the PC gaming public school the private school home-school it’s about piece of gaming

believe me high school even the home school kids got piece Academy the only ones that are buying consoles now are you know the professionals all right we gotta kind of loan kids no kids do not they’re smoking developing nations that’s the hot scene with kids today all teenagers boys and girls his grade fourth grade third grade everyone says go home Gordon you John Paul so Elena and I’m not making that up that’s true it is absolutely true I can tell you from experience let’s let’s clarify we’re not gonna install anything here we just made sure we post and the next steps are the party of our life builds is just to actually build the system with y’all watching us and then we get to the point of posting it just to make sure that what we did actually work in this case it works I am going to be switching out that video card back for the 580 in a different case because the 580 just didn’t fit in this case if you weren’t tuned in at that point in time my next steps I’m going to be benchmarking the system I’m going to do a couple of cpu-based benchmarks but primarily focus on gaming benchmarks just to see how it does just to see what it’s able to put out at 4k and then also at 1080 maybe 1440 and I’ll have those results up my goal is to have the results of in our written article Tuesday morning which is the same day as the Xbox one X launches so perfect you’ll have all that news at the same time nice when the Xbox one launch on Tuesday the 7th so nice it’s for this way it’s on the seventh which I believe is a Tuesday and also what’s the final cost that we’re sitting at right now for this particular bill it’s about I mean the one on the in the written article that I have is 693 at that time which was like October 26 because price is constantly fluctuate this one I think is more like 700 705 what we have in here is not the one I listed in my part list these 61 that I have the LG one that I have in the part list is $50 that’s that’s her standard blu-ray if you want to buy the Pioneer 4k blu-ray UHD drive that one is it came down a price by $10 to you know a cheap $118 right and will not work it will not work with the set up you really need you have to have an Intel processor that support was a SGX yeah hey you know what a motherboard that also supports that same security family show I have a great video idea maybe we’ll set up a blind test between Xbox one X and this and this build and see if Gordon can tell the difference he’s battlefield for any of them sure on a 64 player server sure so yeah well well have some fun with it but yeah once you once you take us out and then we can go to Gordon we can put Gordon to bed for the rest all right thank you everyone for joining us be sure to check back tomorrow if you want to see us talk more about PC news and everything PC on the full nerd was at 10:30 a.m yep otherwise you’ll catch you guys for our next build cool thanks you guys see ya can you give me a pack of cigarettes