morning or afternoon or evening depending upon where you are while you watch our webinar my name is Jim Mathis and I’m here today with particular young in the first instance and Martin didn’t hire who’s going to join us in a few minutes we’re here to introduce for you and talk to you about the public international law and international trade and investment well tracks at the University of Amsterdam Amsterdam law school I’m going to give this now to Whitaker who’s going to talk about the administrative details and some of the admissions aspects of coming to Amsterdam and studying at the Eva and but before I do I want to thank you all for coming in today as participants and we look forward to your questions and the webinar so enjoy it thank you very much so yeah my name is Vika I’m the admissions officer at the international office of the law faculty at the University of Amsterdam so when you think about doing your masters at the University of Amsterdam you will be in touch with me all the way through the point where you’ll actually step foot into our beautiful building and any questions you might have all always come to me but the intention of today’s webinar is also to already answer some of those questions and to give you as much as information as possible so that you feel properly prepared so for those of you who haven’t already applied and the application procedures are as follows the deadline to have your application in is the first of April that means you should have done the following three things fill in the online application form hand in all your original application documents and pay the administration fee of 125 euros if you’re not sure which documents to hand in or how the payment of demonstration fee works or where to find the online application form you can go to our website ALS UVA and you find all of the information there what is good to know is that the deadline of April 1st is quite strict however if you for instance haven’t graduated yet by this time or you’ve scheduled an English proficiency test that hasn’t taken place yet don’t worry this does not affect your application as long as you hand in all your other documents and a certificate transcript of grades of your current degree before the 1st of April we will take your application into consideration and the English proficiency test and your final documents of your undergraduate degree so a statement of graduation or a diploma and your full transcript of grades they may be in before the 31st of May if you have trouble reaching this deadline please always send me an email and we can talk about it on an individual basis to see what we can do for you there is a couple of scholarships available for those who need some help financially it’s important to know that these scholarships that we have available are only there for non EU students who have to pay a higher tuition fee than EU students the scholarships that we still have are Amsterdam merit scholarship the holland scholarship and the orange tulip scholarship which is specifically for Chinese and Korean students for all the eligibility criteria and application procedures of these scholarships please again visit our website or send me an email at admissions – ALS at UVA dot-com darnelle sorry once you’ve been admitted at the University of Amsterdam you office Li want to know where you’ll be living it’s important to know that we have student accommodations available and we want to help you out with getting a roof over your head however we do not guarantee housing this is because we’ve only a limited amount of accommodations available and it’s basically on a first-come first-served basis so you have to be quick to make sure to get university housing it’s also important to know that we don’t have a classic campus the way you might be used to at our universities the student accommodations that we have available are kind of spread across the city somewhere in the city center some are a little bit further away somewhere with a big flat without a student some a little bit more spread there’s a wide variety of types of accommodation that are available price-wise it’s important very you for this am Sam is not the most expensive but also not the cheapest city you can be expected to pay around 400 to 600 euros per month on rent this goes both for University arranged housing and if you find something for yourself when you miss out on University arrange housing or you decide for yourself that you want to find something on the

private market you can also ask us we have some useful websites available some tips some ways to get around on the private market now for those who come from the EU and have EU passport fees and residence permits are easy regulations there’s not much to do and the university will make sure that you will be registered properly they might ask you to upload your passport here and there but that’s it if you’re from outside the EU obviously it takes a little bit more effort and time luckily the university does the application procedure for you so you don’t have to start that yourself however they do ask you to take an active approach and upload quite a few documents to get the entire process rolling it’s also connected to a certain fee that you have to pay to know which documents you have to have prepared for the visa application and how much it’s going to cost you you can take again a look at our website one more important thing to know about this is is that there is two different types of visa right visa applications one that takes generally longer than the other which is as you can see on the slide the MDV one if you follow in this category you have to make sure that you have everything ready all the documents everything prepared by the 31st of May because it’s between defer the 31st of May and June 15th where application procedure can start any later than that and your visa might arrive too late before the start of your semester and obviously that’s not very ideal if you belong to the second get category vvr which is countries such as the US Canada and New Zealand all that there’s a little bit more leeway but still I would always advise to respond as soon as possible when the University of Amsterdam Student Service Center approaches you about this topic so that you can arrange this as soon as possible that was basically for my practical administrative bits as I said before there’s a lot of information on our website I take a look at ALS UVA darnell at the practical matters there’s some information about application and procedures but you can also find course catalog to see what kind of course you’d like to study practical information is about visa and residence permit it’s on there if you still can’t find it you’re always welcome to send me an email I will make sure to reply to you as soon as possible in the meantime my colleague will take my place in a little bit I will be backstage in the chat if you have any questions regarding the administrative procedures or anything content doesn’t matter you can just send it in the chat life and we’ll try to answer you as soon as possible the chat will stay open after the webinar closes for about 15 or 20 minutes so if you have anything just let us know thank you very good very helpful let’s have a Martin come up I came I said Martin didn’t hire the coordinator for the public international law track hi Martin how are you today I’m pretty okay pretty okay it’s nice weather in Amsterdam yes it is there you see our names and our email addresses and we are going to be working quite a bit off this slide you’ll be working with at the beginning I’ll be coming back to it I just want to see before I turn it over to you for the introduction of public international law just so the participants can see how this slide works you look across top and you’ll see that there’s one master and the Masters called international and European law so one single master is quite a large master that is probably 150 160 students in this master overall in the whole group but the master is made up of four separate tracks two of the tracks are in European law one of them is a general European Union law track which is the webinar that was held earlier this morning here in the studio and then there’s a more specialized track inside of European Union law which is European competition law and regulation that works the same way on our side of the Masters which is the public international law side we have attract public international law that Martin is going to introduce that is a more general has more flexibility in it and then the specialized tract international trade and investment law all the tracks have a couple things in common they all are based on 60 European credits 60 EC

credits and all the tracks have the same final paper requirement this is a master’s paper final paper that is worth 12 EC so that means that each track each separate track is allocating 48 European credits across different courses all right I’m gonna pass the slide controller to you and welcome thank you yeah let me start by running quickly through the DD program of the public international law track every student and is the same for Jim’s track international trade and investment law starts with a general introductory course which is called principles and foundations of international law it is an intensive course taught in the first block of the first semester which is the first eight weeks September and October of this year in which we run through the basics again many of you will have done public into before and we try to revive your knowledge on on that but also zoom in to the major controversies within the field of public international law where we feel that every student’s needs to have dis overview to be able to specialize further later on in the program apart from that there is a compulsory element namely what we call the optional comport compulsory courses three of them and you must choose one of those three these three courses are the basics on some core areas of international law and you feel that you have to be proficient in at least one of those so those are international organization international dispute settlement and international responsibilities that we use to call state responsibilities you eventually get a degree in the LLM international and European law which means that we also do require you to have some knowledge of EU law now we make sure of that by obliging you to choose one as we call it cross over elective which is a course in EU law and this is the same for international trade and investment law only the list of courses EU courses with Jim is a bit smaller than with us there are around 6 or 7 EU courses taught by our EU colleagues which you have to choose from one of those and then and I think this is the best part of our program a broad option of electives I’ll come to those in a moment you have to choose up to 24 EC of electives and within this this field of 24 EC it is also possible for you to do an internship and indeed everyone concludes with a thesis let me say a little bit about the subject of international public international law itself why would you choose to do public international law I take it that that most of you are obviously interested in in public international law otherwise you would probably not be watching this webinar I not say many things about international law let me just say that indeed public international law is or around us and becomes increasingly important if one looks for example at the current crisis in Syria the major issues there are governed by international law is it legal to intervene in Syria do a Russia bomb certain areas within Syria is that in compliance with international humanitarian law I think about all the refugees coming to Europe for example are we obliged by international law to protect them and what does protection mean in terms of international law but also on a much more mundane level I think international law is all around us and and invades all kinds of areas also of national law civil or criminal law administrative law my own field of expertise is refugee law and well let us take the Syrian refugees again it is estimated that around 1.5 million refugees have entered the European Union last year and that means in practiced at one point five million times it has to be checked whether that person meets the definition of refugee and Refugee Convention so international law is applied on a daily basis in virtually all countries in the world and especially so in in in Europe moving on to the next obvious question if you want to do international or why would you do it in Amsterdam and there are a number of good reasons I think for choosing

move-up as your university first of all we have especially if you compare to other universities in law schools in the Netherlands we have a teaching staff wait which is quite large we have one of the largest research groups in international law in the Netherlands we publish often in international journals our research is closely connected to our education and we have experts in pretty much all fields or sub areas of international law we have also she perhaps add they’ve been and been given the title of center of excellence of the University of Amsterdam which shows how important the university thinks about international law there is a great asset about doing publication law in Amsterdam which is the flexibility of the program and and this is mainly because of the large amount of electives we have an on offer and I’ve come to those electives in a minute you’re really flexible to do specialize in in one particular area of international law for example Human Rights or international criminal law oh that is an offer in our program we have an international classroom this year we have around 90 students around half of them are are Dutch and have none Dutch students really coming from from every continent of of this planet and and that makes for a great mixture and an opportunity to familiar familiarize yourself with with other cultures and much good much good comes out of that and I personally enjoy very much working with with students from different cultures and finally we are in Amsterdam which is I think good for two reasons first of all because it is a very nice city I hope you agree with me on this am i believing in myself and Amsterdam for for a couple of years I still enjoy it every day culturally vibrant city there’s much to do after you’ve done with studying but I think also in terms of the content of a program Amsterdam is very well located because it is in the Netherlands because it is close to the Hague the eggs sometimes called the legal capital of the world with all the international organizations international tribunals located there and that offers opportunities in our education as well study trips to those organizations or tribunals you can choose to do an internship there and sometimes judges for example of the International Criminal Court or the International Court of Justice give guest lectures so it is very nice to be located closely to the place where international law is implemented and made in India now before I hand over to to Jim let me run through the list of electives we have on offer because I think this is one of the most wonderful parts of our programs the Liberty for you to zoom into one area or perhaps to go into a mode of multiple fields of international law I’ve grouped the electives by theme and by subfields international criminal law we have three courses on offer they’re offered by our colleagues from criminal law we specialize in international criminal law mainly professors Harmons on the Wilton professor Hans louder louder is also a lawyer with a big law firm in in the Netherlands defending persons who stand trial in The Hague at the International Criminal Court so three courses zooming into that area that is increasing importance international criminal law we have three courses which are within the field of human rights law again different experts professor danders teaches the course which is really popular international human rights law zooming mainly into UN Human Rights treaties and treaties supervisory bodies of the United Nations European human rights law zooming in to mostly European Convention and the European Court of Human Rights but also the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights and wonderful course on international refugee law taught by who is now our interim dean professor – eh three courses on international humanitarian law and those are special because these courses are also part of the program to be followed by officers of the Dutch military academy so these courses are also followed by persons in uniform we you will sit next to them in the classroom victims of war is a new course of for the first time this year told by Professor Elizabeth she felt who is a

well-known lawyer in the Netherlands lawyer in quite high-profile cases such as the murders of Sabine it’s a case I think it is wonderful code it will start next block and we will certainly keep it next year one more slide with electives gyms courses of course and he will talk about trade and investment law in a minute we there are a couple of practice oriented courses we greatly appreciated if theory the theory and textbook knowledge of international law is brought into into practice we have a number of courses facilitating that the law clinic in which we work on projects of third party such as law forms who asked us to delve into to do some research into particular issues which may help them win a case and you will be assigned to a particular project if you talk if you up for that course we have the Jessup moot court of course Amsterdam always participates in the it is the most well known public international law moot court and we recently run our team of five students the national round and our Sooners go go to Washington I believe in two weeks to hope to do very well in the inspirational round as well the WTO moot Court which is also within Jim’s program we do well on that as well I think Jim can say a little more about that and the possibility to do an internship and and most students who are interested in the internship do not face many obstacles in finding a good internship which is partly due to all the opportunities the Netherlands has enough for it in the area of international law a three miscellaneous course is finally history and theory of international law international environmental law taught by Professor Lee Faber with especially in environmental law and works for the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs disease also part-time appointed ed Weaver and finally a wonderful coaster pulled by Professor pity on CalPERS United Nations below in action Peter Yin is one of our retired professors but has worked pretty much always live with international organizations all over the world United Nations European Commission WTO and this course zooms into the internal organisation and the internal challenges of the United Nations I have one slide left on career prospect before I hand over you have something to say about this well let me just just say that that I think career prospects for those having a degree in international law are are good much better than than perhaps 10 20 years ago one reason for that is indeed that international law invades all kinds of other areas of law as well and of course you can greatly enhance your career opportunities by making certain choices while studying here doing extracurricular activities doing an internship at a particular organization of course getting good grades helps as well Jim button to you okay you know it’s quite impressive when you look at this list of electives it’s hard to imagine that if you could have studied public international law you can actually find a catalog it’s more extensive in this catalog and I mean in the world I’m not just in the Netherlands it’s it’s it’s it’s amazing but of course that’s one of the things that the unabomber the University of Amsterdam does well we are large and that means we have a larger faculty and that means we have a lot of courses but it doesn’t mean that all of our courses are crammed with with massive quantities of students these are tracks get refined and in the second semester courses we’re running I think we have 25 to 35 students in a course that’s typical we have a total hoovering in my track of ninety student but but but indeed that splits up and even in the compulsory courses we ensure that there are smaller groups no more than forty students and this is the case as well and the electives of course which ensure its interaction but between the teachers and students so it’s basically normal classroom sized groups are maybe a bit larger than what you’d have for a small seminar for most of them but they’re not they’re not massive barnyard classes with with a hundred eighty five students sitting in a room we only run those large groups on the introduction courses but then again we have study groups that break down into smaller groups I’m gonna talk a bit about international trade and investment law this is also a branch of public international law as you saw it some of

these courses in my track can be taken in the public international law master’s program which means clearly you could specialize in a sense by just taking the general public international law masters and then picking up a few of these international economic law courses as you want to that’s quite possible however what happens with my track is that most students come into it they want to have a specialization so the Diploma that finalizes is international European law masters with the track designated international trade and investment law now talk a little bit about what is International Trade and Investment law in a moment but why do people come into this track and what is it that they are have in common when they study this subject area its trade law and investment law is a mix of law its treaty law it’s public international law state to state organization to organizations state to organizational law but it’s also very economic law in that the idea of the treaties is normally to try to meet an economic objective of some kind liberalizing markets trying to open the investment market trying to open markets for service providers or for goods or for food supplies from developing countries these are all what we call market access issues and the dynamic the context is somewhat economic that way that doesn’t mean that the lawyers who work in the field or economists but they don’t understand something along the way of what is the context of what they’re negotiating for and what they’re what they’re trying to interpret when they interpret an international treaty the other aspect though is because it is very about negotiations and the treaties that result from these negotiations it is an inherently political area and people are drawn to the area because of its high politics its state to state trade negotiations and in many trade negotiations there’s not more much more that can be at stake than the positions of the industries and the firms of the countries involved and how the negotiations play out and we know this from from the fact that that the law of globalization is dynamic and expanding we see so much attention to trade agreements going up over the last two to three years and this is just the recent cycle of agreements we have a very large trade agreement that’s been entered by ten countries in Asia in the United States included and South America and Canada called the transatlantic Pacific Partnership the TPP this is not yet ratified the United States but will be incredibly controversial as it goes to ratification here in the European Union we’re negotiating a trade agreement now with the United States also the transatlantic trade and investment partnership it’s controversial in the United States and it’s controversial here as well even while the negotiations proceed over the period of they’ve been going on now for years and perhaps they they finish up this year why controversial what’s controversial about these trade agreements and what makes them the focus of so much public attention always in this field at least in the modern times there’s a tension between the societal values and the tensions between what the market is demanding and we see this on issues all over trade and environment issues we prohibit the importation of co-products baby seal products in the European Union that becomes a trade case now we have a value we have a moral value and you say no we don’t want the seal products in there from from countries where the seals are harvested in a manner that is objectionable to us but that becomes a trade case because the market says yes but our seals should be allowed to to have entry into the market or how we label our dolphin-safe tuna and whether we label that in a manner that forms an unnecessary barrier to trade or in intellectual property rights developing countries right to have access to medicines in a health emergency like an HIV emergency or Zika emergency how does a country exercise its right to suspend a patent holders rights to be paid for

the patent on their pharmaceutical product or for example of what we have happening now in Australia but also soon to come to Europe a highly restrictive cigarette package labeling where the brand names could no longer be shown or the brand identification colors can no longer be used is that an infringement of copyright is that an unnecessary trade barrier that prevents the company from accessing the market as it as it has agreed to do under the trade agreement terms in this respect most of the students that are writing now for papers and that are putting in final top is with me are working on issues and topics like this normally trade and environment trade and human rights trade and culture trade and right to medicines these types of topics why trade and investment law at the University of Amsterdam well we are also we share some of the same characteristics as does martin’s program in public international law we are a very much an international student environment my track in particular probably has the highest number of non Dutch students in it not that we don’t love our Dutch students in our tracks you do absolutely for sure but let me just give you some sense of how this is we’ve got 42 students in the track this year one third of my students are Dutch students who other words their bachelor students who have come from other Dutch universities to stay in Amsterdam and I’ve had Dutch students tell me when they’ve been in this track through the course of the year they said I wanted to have an international environment I wanted to work a study in an international environment but I was quite surprised I could just come to Amsterdam and being an international environment because in the classroom and in a group that is going through the traq people are from all over and it makes the course for the most interesting experience possible for a student it really enhances the quality of the experience the student has at the same time it also provides the basis for what becomes for most of the students in these tracks a network that goes on with them for years and years after they finish the studies here people become very close friends they’ve gone through the experience together I’m going to meet a group in May that is coming back here for their 25th anniversary alumni meeting having been in this track back in nineteen nine and that’s the kind of way people hold together the network and the friendships that they have here another aspect of the track is the track is uniquely case intensive both in WTO law which is World Trade Organization trade law and in investment law mainly operating of cases under the bilateral investment treaties we have cases all the time the arbitration cases are flowing a number of cases of panels being ruled every month in trade law we’re getting 40 and 50 panels a year in the WTO there’s always changes in the law to digest the law is always moving and that sense it’s a very dynamic field because it’s very case busy which is a great thing for teachers because there’s always something new to teach and of course it’s very interesting for students because there’s always something new that’s opening up and happening in the field all the tracks in the Masters International European law operate with excursions and make sure that students are exposed to something else besides just our classrooms from my own track we take students to Geneva in May when we go to WTO and we go to three or four other organizations that deal with international economic law including a law firm that does nothing but WTO panel law practice in Geneva specialized law firm we also have our own moot court which is the ELSA European Law Students Association WTO moot Court and they join as a participant as with Martens attract

the Evo Law Clinic the WTO moot court we we’ve had very successful teams over the last three years we’ve been in the Geneva finals each year of the competition last year I I think that there were in excess of 80 teams arguing the case globally and we made it into the top eight and finished quite well in Geneva so we have had very strong wood court teams and of course the experience for those students who select the pollute Court and are good enough to be on it it is an incredible experience because they really are meeting the people who are going to be the people in the field that they will deal with as they stay as they stay in international trade law the eval law clinic is something that’s totally unique to uh to the University of Amsterdam and to our track these are real cases real clients real problems and the students act like real lawyers under the supervision of one of the instructors and prepare real legal materials so it is a hands-on practice oriented experience and it’s incredibly valuable for students to have it our career path is similar to public international law you know national regional organizations EU students that come through my track and want to stay in trade tend to work in the European Commission or one of the national ministries or they’ll go to a government ministry law firms specializing in international trade and investment law of course in companies nongovernmental organizations is a growth area for us because there are so many NGOs dealing with trade environment and trade and development rights these sorts of aspects many of them based in the Netherlands and of course for their academic study we know our placement rate is quite good however I let you show you this number but I want to put the caveat on it this is just for all of our tracks this is not just for my own track we after four months from in near 2014 we had students either in an internship or a job at a placement rate of around 80 percent for those in contact with our job coach our Career Services but that’s the caveat is the ones who are in contact with the Career Services tend to be people who are staying in the Netherlands they may also tend to be Dutch students and of course they’re operating looking for employment in their home market so really quite depends upon your own destination your own country of origin your language skills and of course your scores in the course and what you want to do and what you’re trying to open up for yourself okay well I’m gonna look at the screen here and we’ve got a good 20 minutes left for questions and I hope right here we’re here to talk about content because here to help with the administration questions but please we’ve covered the courses now for you and we’d love to hear your questions in terms of the content of the course the operation of the course anything else you want to know about it and we’ll just sit here and read the screen and see what we can see what we can answer for you and thank you very much yeah there are thanks indeed but perhaps we can take up a one or two questions which are on screen and Timothy I saw as two questions one is about what is on the Diploma does it only say that you have completed the master international European law or just also lists the track on the Diploma it indeed lists also it says specifically which track you follow so I think we we have addressed that one and then there is a question on whether the electives are on a first-come first-serve basis and whether there is a cap in a number of students that may a row in a particular elective none of our electives has a cut apart from the practice oriented electives so you indeed have to apply and are selected on a competitive basis for the practice courses which are the Jessup mood court which is the law clinic and which is the W WTO mood court for all the other electives there is no cap so if you enroll before the deadline you are

guaranteed to place yeah just adding on to that supplementing that the Diploma indicates international European law masters and then the designation of the track as you just said then there’s also it is accompanied by the certificate that has all the courses we and our certificate provides also the title of the students final paper which is keys a CV very much into the subject area of what the student was like was focusing on in the concentration as they completed the school year so that’s also helpful to try to orient your yourself as you move into the job market or internship market after school okay what else we got could you give us an example of how the schedule will be the first three months for a student who was working but would like to study at full time working in full time I have to be honest with you it’s not easy you cannot do three things full-time because there is only one full-time right yeah yeah we do I we every year we have students who are taking the course half time or part-time and they’re carving it so for example in our first block each block last eight weeks seven weeks of sessions and then a week of exams in our first block both of our tracks are having principles and foundations of public international law that’s a that’s an intensive course it’s two lecture sessions a week plus a study group session a work group session a week so that’s six hours a week in the course but it’s also the case and the set of preparation are for pretty much pepper yeah because you because the course is moving fast so there’s a lot of reading that at least doubles that time you must keep up during during the course it doesn’t work if you start studying only for the exam one week before I know so between between being in class plus preparation you’re probably looking at a 15 hour week certainly a week at least at least yeah I would say probably the good students have 20 hours sufficient but others may even need 25 hours – we just keep up with with all the materials so that courses that courses a is a part-time is a half-time job if it’s 20 hours a week that’s a half-time job now that said a lot of students who are trying to work for 10 or 12 hours a week which I which does happened a lot of students work a whole jobs they’re able to hold that ten or twelve hours a week and do that make that combination play and also in that first set because it is intensive they’re not taking other courses they won’t draw to another elective or try to fill in one of their electives in that set they’ll just basically say no this is 12 you see this is enough for eight weeks they’re following at the following eight weeks they’ll take another two courses and and fill in the same way or maybe three maybe they’ll take an elective on theirs on their second block so but two full-time jobs at the same time it’s difficult and is not easy to resolve that I agree just to to to add a little bit about the first months of the program indeed the idea is that everyone stars and only follows this introductory course principles and foundations in first block of eight weeks yet there are always students who want to do more have no other job and for those we’ve decided and we start with that next year to also offer in the first block the elective theory of international law history and theory of international law and that is to make sure that those students who are who are good and who don’t need as much time as as others can flow not of course as well okay good is it possible to start a master in February and in this case how long does a taught master degree take that’s a good question but you want me to start taking up I can take up as well I generally advise it is indeed possible to start to start master in in February I generally advise against it because you follow the program in the reverse order the three core courses of which you have to choose one and the general introductory course are offered at fixed moments throughout the year so logically if you start in February you

would first do all the more specialized electives and do the more introductory level courses later on from September to February onwards so it can make it a little bit more difficult yeah we always have students I think around between 10 to 15 will opt for the possibility and to start in February and I do not encounter major obstacles in that respect and in terms of time the DECA still complete the master’s within one year yeah speaking from my own track similar although I’ve had good experiences with students coming in February every year they said I’ve got 40 students this year I’ve got five who started in February so that’s it’s it’s several students and when they come in they know they have to do some pre reading because we’ve already finished our general courses in WTO law and basic investment law and we’re moving on to the part of the of the year where students have a choice to add to stay in both trade and investment do it both or say no I only want to study investment now so I’ll take investment arbitration or I only want to study WTO law now so I’ll take the advanced WTO course so there the rest of the group is already making that cut they’re making those choices based upon the introductory courses they had in the first semester so that puts a February student at a little bit of a tricky position but at the same time if they do some pre reading which is available we we try to facilitate that they can they get with a group and they get with the flow quite okay also for the February students as this for all students we have a final paper course that runs from when they start their enrollment that takes us through the sequence for the skills courses the selection of topics the selection of supervision for the final papers this is all also operates like a course and that course it started distinctly in February for the February enrollments so they’re not put at disadvantage or put behind the group in regard to how they’re handling their final paper the course for those students is also over in a single academic year the papers are filed final papers drafts are filed very early January and those papers have marked out and finalized for for the Diploma before February so it’s it’s also a 12-month academic course the same way it is for the students that start in September good questions that Dara Dara is not our question of Timothy the website indicates that some exams will be conducted in written exams and/or oh and audios written open book or closed book and what are oral exams if it oral exams are are aware I don’t know within my track any course which has oral exams as a rule they are offered as an exception for example if due to all kinds of unforeseen circumstance a student has been unable to to do the exam also in India retake or when perhaps there there is one course left to be able to graduate and then we may organize a neuro exam to to fill up that gap are they open book or closed book depends entirely on the course there are open book exams and exams and and I think quite evenly distributed and the other question was the Oryx are a presentation based or or QA basis in in you are obliged and and and that is the only presentation based exam I’m aware of you are obliged to defend your master thesis before the professors and other students which takes about five or between five and ten minutes and if you are have to do an oral exam for one of the courses instead of a written exam there are they will be QA based okay thank you I’ve got one here that I’m gonna take up considering the huge influence of the trade and economics in our competitive world makes it easier for a graduate to find a job in this area when we stay in the Netherlands question mark I mean is there an important labor market for us once we get the degree I I’m going to just say very very clearly on this that

the labor market for students varies tremendously upon the individual situation of the student and as it is so unique to your own particular profile that I can’t generalize and say yeah the Dutchman labor market is this way for everybody or the Dutch labor market is this way for no one it’s very distinct I’ve got the students for example I have Chinese students from the last three years who have all stayed and are working it at Dutch banks that are doing business in Chinese markets they found that they have found a place here to basically exercise their Chinese the Chinese language skills and writing skills are obviously a key to that to that that employment for them together with the combination they’ve gotten from the course so that puts them in the Dutch market in the international financial services market that’s that’s not the same for someone else and the Dutch student who has who is a native Dutch speaker that student might be operating in a law firm that is working primarily with Dutch clients doing international transactions or international investment law of some kind so it’s so specific some students clearly find they’re better opportunities in their home markets where they can basically work into their own ministries or as the case may be working in regional economic organizations or international economic organizations including those based in Geneva they’re very competitive they’re not easy to get into those who go into competition for the the placements in the European Commission so and it’s yes there is a Dutch labor market but how one has the skills to be a good part of it I can’t say unless somebody really analyzes your own individual CV and that is after you finish the course because the marks and the performance of the course are very much a big part of how well you do in the labour market I hope that’s helpful yeah there is another one from your pasta ma does the master offer extra possibilities of courses for excellent students and the same as with the honest tracking in better of law school good good question and we have not a thing like courses or tutorials specifically reserved for honor students or very good students so the program is the same for all of our students yet you are invited if you feel like it to do extra courses there’s not a maximum of the number of courses you can follow so you can indeed follow and this will also be on your transcript extra or more electives than the others do and I spoke already about the first eight weeks precisely because there were some students who said well this introductory course principles and foundations I would like to do something else beside that course in the first eight weeks there is now also an elective on offer in in that first first block and of course you can also do more internships if you like you can also engage in activities outside of the program for example become a member of the study organization student organization outside international law and become active there and it organizes a study strip for example and all kinds of nice activities such as lecturers and also some drinks and in the evenings sometimes yeah I think I’d like to add to that also if I can the way our program is designed is we’re focusing on academic writing or legal English legal analysis in writing and our model for what is an excellent paper and a good paper really our is a law article model a law article in English and that’s what we are pushing the students to get to because that is what we can assess for them when we give them a reference for an employment application say this student is an outstanding researcher and an outstanding writer those the primary skills are being brought into the job market for an employer that said every year in both these programs were in we get students who just do outstanding final papers or right outstanding case reviews and we recommend them in for publication in my track as it is the case in European Union law we have our own journal it’s not an in-house journal it’s a commercial international journal called legal issues of economic integration and we publish a couple of final papers a year in the form of

articles or case notes in the form of case reviews and I know from the investment side that we have instructors making referrals for students to publish into the arbitration report journals these publications are fantastic for students V’s if you draw an academic publication as a student at a master’s level it opens doors there’s no question that it’s a very powerful item to have but of course getting there right being a good enough writer to get there is it’s a challenge but that is what we’re actually challenging students to try to do in the programs doesn’t serve me know and I’m really difficult when Jim from from Miriam oh yeah what’s the average grade score to study the master of public international law I think the question is I have no idea what is this this is a mission question we’re getting that Vinik answer what how we handle that you know whether we are an open enrollment system or whether we have thresholds I know we have a scoring system but we I don’t run the admissions office in anything I don’t know it yeah but I think Vidigal compelling answer that wouldn’t for you and there are no more questions I see yeah you you can still a question that’s been I think it’s for us now time to to say good to say goodbye and then we will take over with questions and if there are questions on content we will come back to you thank you very much you know my behalf for for for being with us who wait is webinar I enjoyed it I hope you that there is one thing I would like to remind you that there is a poll on the site and then we hope that you will fill in that poll because it informs us about your needs and whether we have satisfied your knees with with this webinar thanks very much and I hope you all see you and in Amsterdam in in September next year yeah Thank You Martin thank you and we hope you enjoyed it and thank you for joining us bye bye bye